Pennsylvania Grassroots for Forensic Audit vs. Republican Senators

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  • Source: UncoverDC
  • 09/19/2023

In May, Pennsylvania State Senator Seth Grove released a report summarizing testimony in hearings held by the legislature with "election officials and experts" that was "intended to identify and fix any problems with the voting system." Though there is broad support among Republicans that problems found in Pennsylvania's election systems need to be addressed by legislation before future elections, and though they are largely united behind a message of making it "easier to vote, harder to cheat," there is no such shared vision for a review of the 2020 election.

After successfully advocating for auditing a sample of Pennsylvania's 2020 ballots, Grove has said that he would not authorize any further audit on previous elections. Proponents of a 'Full Forensic' audit say the already completed 'Risk Limiting' audit only provides a cover narrative to avoid investigation of an election that was miscounted and may have elected politicians who didn't truly win. A full forensic audit would include further measures such as recounting provisional ballots, verifying signatures, and forensic investigation of all electronic voting machines.

Audit the Vote PA (ATVPA) has obtained over 70,000 signatures from Pennsylvania citizens who support a full forensic audit. That's why Karen Taylor of ATVPA told UncoverDC that Pennsylvania legislators who aren't pushing for a full forensic audit are "ignoring the will of their own constituents."


Toni Shuppe of ATVPA has uploaded a video update with her account of a meeting she had with Senator Dave Argall. She says that as Chair of the State Senate Government Committee, Argall has "all the power" to make a motion for a forensic audit, and then a 5-4 vote by that committee would begin the process. The June 17 meeting was to convince him of that. She says they have "more than enough support, more than enough evidence" to prove that a full forensic audit is needed but that "legislators are essentially ignoring us."

ATVPA served Argall an affidavit of requests with a response demanded within 5 days, after which a $1,000 per day fine would be imposed. "We are just trying to get them moving... I don't know if it has teeth if it is legitimately enforceable or not, but we are definitely going to pursue it to the fullest extent we can to get them to do their job... if this route doesn't work, we have other legal routes... and legal remedies." ATVPA posted to Telegram, "This was not a 'threat,' but a notice that per the PA constitution that We the people feel they are not 'doing their job to secure our election process for either side of the political aisle and its time to act.'"

Then on June 18, Argall gave an interview in which he said he isn't against "doing [an audit] one more time to try to answer the concerns that people have.

"I don’t know why people are so mistrusting of the results... I just know that they are... Do I have 100% confidence … that everything was perfect? No, I'd really like us to take a detailed review of that... That’s why we’re looking at changing pieces of the election legislation, and it’s also why I think it wouldn’t hurt at all to go back, do that audit, and say, 'How exactly did that work out?'"

That interview prompted an ATVPA post on Telegram the next day that said, "Apparently, Senator Argall is as flippy floppy as a fish out of water."

Then Shuppe sent a follow-up email to Argall, including signatures on her petition from constituents, so he could see that support for a forensic audit is coming from people who could vote for, or against, his re-election. The email read:

"I was disappointed to see that when the media interviewed you, specifically Spotlight PA, they asked why your constituents were so adamant about a forensic audit and your reply was that you did not know. I'm confused because just the day prior we had talked through all of this data...

Why are you hesitant to share with the media our reasons for wanting this audit? I think that could really help bring all Pennsylvanians together if we were all aware of how much evidence there really is to indicate potential fraud in the 2020 election. The opposing side seems to want to keep that hidden, and I believe that is the major source of division among us across the Commonwealth. Any sane person who sees this data will agree that a full forensic audit is the only way forward...

Please let me know when you plan to take the next steps for the audit. If I do not hear back from you, we are going to continue down our legal path on behalf of all PA residents who deserve a free and fair election system and who deserve to have legislators who represent the will of the people."

Republican State Senator Jake Corman has also been called out for opposition to a forensic audit, this time by Donald Trump:

"Why is State Senator Jake Corman of Pennsylvania fighting so hard that there not be a Forensic Audit of the 2020 Presidential Election Scam? Corman is fighting as though he were a Radical Left Democrat, saying that a Forensic Audit of Pennsylvania not take place. Why is Senator David Argall playing the same game? Are they stupid, corrupt, or naive? ... I feel certain that if Corman continues along this path of resistance, with its lack of transparency, he will be primaried and lose by big numbers."

Pennsylvania Republican Senators Argall, Corman, and Grove

That wasn't the first time either. After Pennsylvania sent an election delegation to the Maricopa County forensic audit early this month, Trump had stated:

"Great patriots led by State Senator Doug Mastriano, Senator Cris Dush, and State Representative Rob Kauffman went to Maricopa County, Arizona, to learn the best practices for conducting a full Forensic Audit of the 2020 General Election. Now the Pennsylvania Senate needs to act. Senate President Jake Corman needs to fulfill his promise to his constituents to conduct a full Forensic Audit. Senator Dave Argall, Chairman of the State Government Committee, has to authorize the subpoenas, if necessary. The people of Pennsylvania and America deserve to know the truth. If the Pennsylvania Senate leadership doesn’t act, there is no way they will ever get re-elected!"

Pennsylvania has an active grassroots movement that is modeling political reform from the ground up so that activists in states across the nation can emulate it. See our article featuring, the Berks County Patriots, and the so-called Resolutionary Movement.

UncoverDC recently reported on grassroots rallies for Election Integrity in Pennsylvania, including one in Irwin featuring state Senator Doug Mastriano and the women of Audit the Vote PA, one sponsored by Steve Bannon's War Room in Wysox, and an all-ages Patriot Party Family Day in Beaver Falls.

Jamie Sheffield, Karen Taylor, and Toni Shuppe of ATVPA joined Stan Casaclo's podcast with Larry Klayman, founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, and Dr. Douglas G Frank, Ph.D., who has sixty peer-reviewed publications, is an inventor, entrepreneur, and libertarian featured in Lindell's "Scientific Proof."

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